Process of selling domains - clarification of details

Started by Plan, Jul 14, 2022, 02:57 AM

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I would like to get answers to some questions about the domains selling.
I am not very familiar with the sales mechanism and I want to hear the opinion of experienced colleagues.

Conditions of the problem:

Suppose there are two domainers - A and B. A has money, B has a domain and A wants to buy this domain from B. A does not know B, B does not know A, they are from different cities or even countries.

A and B can be absolutely honest people, or they can be scammers.
There is also a certain service C, the function of which is to help A and B complete their transaction - so that A has a domain, and B has money. Service C is honest and fair.

The sales scheme is as follows:

A and B report to the service with readiness to make a deal.

After the service agrees to help A and B, A makes a money transfer (necessarily with a protection code valid for several days) to B's account. The protection code is known to service C for certain. After the payment message from service C, B sends A the AuthCode of the domain.

Now there are 2 scenarios.

Option 1.
If A and B are both honest domainers, then A, using AuthCode, receives the domain and informs service C about the successful receipt of the domain. Service C tells B the payment protection code and B receives money for the domain. Everyone is happy.

Option 2.
Domainer A turned out to be a scammer. Using AuthCode, he gets the domain, but informs service C that the AuthCode from B does not work and he could not get the domain. Accordingly, service C does not send the protection code, some time passes and A gets his money back. As a result, A was left with a domain and money, and B without a domain and without money.

And now my questions:
1. At the time A uses the AuthCode, does B get any evidence of the use of that same AuthCode (to provide to service C)?
2. Are there other ways to avoid Option 2 without using third party services (escrow services, domain brokers, etc.).
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JohnS

This complexity is solved if you transfer the domain through the service.
But this is a long time (a month of hold for ru), so it's not very convenient. On the other hand, if service C is reliable, then it will 100% transfer the domain to the buyer. But the buyer, of course, has the discomfort of having to wait a month.


Even when changing the administrator, a letter falls to the giving administrator, which he can bring (send) to the service. But it seems that not every ru-registrar sends such a letter.
And you can forge a letter, or transfer the domain to yourself or a friend, and say - like I transferred it and the buyer accepted it. Those. here the seller can already cheat.
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GrahamJohn

The owner puts the domain name up for sale, the buyer pays for it, which is temporarily frozen.
The domain owner transfers ownership rights to the buyer. After the buyer confirms the successful transfer, the funds are credited to the seller.
Usually, domain resale sites and auctions are combined on the same web sites. Among these are the following:

Sedo.com
One of the most powerful platforms for buying /selling domain name s with a database of more than 19 million domain names.
Generates domain name ideas for specific keywords.
It is possible to filter the search according to whether you are looking for a premium domain, just a domain or a domain with a ready-made site.
As soon as you find what you need, you can compare offers, including statistics and information about sellers.
You can use the services of a broker (more relevant for negotiating the purchase of a premium domain).
The cost of putting your domain name on display is:

Showcase with categories – €9 for showing in one category for 30 days + €5 for each additional category.
On the main page – €39+ €10 for showing on the additional language version of web site. The demo is valid for 30 days. There is a package offer – €69 for showing your domain on all language versions of web site at once.
Sales commission – 15%

Flippa
Flippa is another popular domain marketplace that allows users to sell and buy domain names, ready–made sites and applications.
An auction-based system allows you to "observe" the domain names you are interested in.
Like Sedo, they offer brokerage services to facilitate the negotiation and purchase process.
Due to the fact that Flippa is used not only for buying and selling domains, the interface is less intuitive than that of other web  sites.
The cost of placement starts from $29 per demonstration for 3 months.
Sales commission – 5%

It is also worth a look here if you are interested in selling a premium domain name or just looking for ideas for your domain.
There are no sales commissions.

You can contact a third proxy as a guarantor and conduct a transaction.
This case has more pitfalls, since it is not known whether the guarantor will disappear with the funds and whether he is an interested party of the second party.

Without the participation of a third party.
Often, users interested in a particular domain name can independently contact the domain owner with an offer to sell the domain name . If you did not plan to sell it, but the price tempted you, you can agree to the sale.

If you trust your buyer or have concluded a documentary contract, you can contact the hosting provider and ask him to transfer the rights after the funds are credited to your account.

In this case, the hoster-registrar does not act as a guarantor, the procedure for transferring rights to another person takes place according to the usual rules of the hosting provider. And the resale agreement with the buyer takes place between you according to the agreed terms.
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