Is it worthwhile to use Cloudflare and Quic Cloud in conjunction with each other?

Started by Рупорт, Jun 16, 2022, 02:25 PM

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Currently, I'm volunteering for an animal rescue organization and we're utilizing GeekStorage's PX2 hosting plan with LiteSpeed for our WordPress site built with Elementor Pro. Additionally, we've signed up for the free plan on CloudFlare (CF) and I'm currently testing out the free plan on QUIC.cloud (QC). However, I'm considering switching to the paid plan since it doesn't cost too much.

My strategy is to use CF for static content and QC for dynamic content and media optimization. I'm wondering if there are any issues using two CDNs or if it's better to stick with just QC. Although CF does offer many features for free, I thought it would be wise to make use of all available options.

I understand that this may not be related to hosting, but I wasn't sure which category to post this in. Thanks.
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Austin

Great job on volunteering for a worthy cause.
It's admirable to see people like you taking initiative. However, I would caution you to be careful with the tools you mentioned such as caches, site builders, CDNs, and free features.

While these tools can be useful in solving specific problems, enabling too many of them can lead to issues such as slow loading times, incorrect content display, or even no content at all due to interactions between plugins and caches. Therefore, my recommendation is to enable features one by one, test their effectiveness in solving issues, and wait for feedback before moving on to the next tool. Avoid using them simply because you think you should.
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redshrey

My advice would be to use only Cloudflare since it has the capability to automatically cache static content and speed up dynamic plugins.

 Despite the fact that they may charge for their WordPress plugin, it would still be beneficial to stick with them. QC also has its own CDN setup, so there is no need to combine both since it would be redundant.
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Plan

If you are using WordPress, then you should consider trying Super Page Cache for Cloudflare by Optimole. I use this with the free version of CF.
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Mycrib

Ultimately, the result remains unchanged with the only difference being the location of the image storage - either on your server or on CF. I have emphasized multiple times that this service is unnecessary, and Cloudflare promotes it to improve their profitability since they are currently operating at a loss.

It may be worthwhile to consider investing in a solution specifically designed for streaming videos due to its resource-intensive nature.
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johngf

Quote from: Austin on Jun 16, 2022, 02:28 PMWell done for volunteering for a worthy cause, it's good to see.

Can I just advise you to be careful, however. All the things you mention (caches, sitebuilders, CDNs, free features) have significant downsides. I've used them all (OK, except Quic cloud) and they are all useful for solving certain problems, but every one you enable can cause problems. There's a danger that you're doing more harm than good, in other words. Using 2 CDNs is not a good idea, to answer your question.

The sorts of problems I'm talking about are sites loading slowly or displaying incorrect content or error messages or no content at all due to interactions between the various caches and plugins. To find the problem you have to turn them all off, then re-enable them one by one, which can take a lot of time. If there are lots of them there may be dozens of permutations to complicate things.

So, my advice is to enable features like this one by one, test to make sure they're actually solving a problem and doing no harm (measure page load times under load, mobile views, contact forms and everything), wait a couple of weeks to see if anyone complains then move on to the next one. Don't use them just because you "might as well".
If you start doing something, then do it and don't be hesitant about what others think, you will first learn, and then you can take on additional work!
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rajeshmehra615

Like Cloudflare, QUIC CDN is also a reverse proxy CDN provider. Usual CDN providers (AWS CloudFront, Google Cloud CDN, etc.) only serve your static files (images, CSS, JS, etc.) from their servers.

nevertheless, reverse proxy CDN providers serve all your static files as well as dynamic HTML files from their CDN. This feature provides some additional benefits compared to a regular CDN provider, as pages load much faster.
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mxtecsubs

Using two CDNs in conjunction, such as CloudFlare (CF) and QUIC.cloud (QC), can offer certain advantages but also poses potential challenges.

When it comes to utilizing multiple CDNs, it's important to consider the impact on website performance, caching, and content delivery. In theory, having two CDNs can increase redundancy and availability, as well as potentially improve load times by distributing content across multiple networks. However, it can also introduce additional complexity and configuration requirements.

One potential challenge is ensuring that both CDNs are properly configured to avoid conflicts or duplication of content. It's crucial to carefully manage caching settings to prevent mixed content issues or outdated content being served. Additionally, configuring DNS properly to correctly route traffic between the two CDNs might require some expertise.

In terms of your specific strategy, using CF for static content and QC for dynamic content and media optimization seems reasonable. CF has a strong reputation for its global network and robust caching capabilities, whereas QC focuses on optimizing dynamic content delivery. This combination can potentially provide the best of both worlds.

Ultimately, whether to stick with just QC or use both CF and QC depends on your specific needs and goals. It may be worth conducting some performance tests and monitoring your website's metrics to assess the impact of each CDN individually and in combination.

Regarding your hosting plan with GeekStorage and LiteSpeed, it's great that you have chosen a host that supports your WordPress site. LiteSpeed is known for its efficiency and speed, so it should complement the CDNs well.

Remember, the performance of your website will depend on various factors beyond CDNs, such as your server configuration, theme optimization, and plugin usage. Regular monitoring and optimization are essential to ensure the best possible experience for your visitors.
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