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Hosting Discussion => Web Hosting => Topic started by: Newport on Aug 10, 2022, 03:11 AM

Title: Organizing mail for your domain name with a third-party host
Post by: Newport on Aug 10, 2022, 03:11 AM
Hello.
Typically, I use hosting mail, but sometimes I need to create email boxes like mail@site.com on other services such as Gmail or Yandex Mail. However, it seems that things have changed since the last time I did this, as it used to be free. When I recently visited Yandex, I was directed to Yandex 360 instead of Yandex business and was offered many unnecessary features with minimal subscription options. Google seems to be much the same.

In the past, it was possible to create a mailbox with your domain for free for both Google and Yandex. However, it seems that this is no longer an option. I cannot find any guidelines on how to create a box with these latest changes in my search results.

Could you offer some advice on how to proceed?
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Ali_Pro on Aug 10, 2022, 07:18 AM
For a few years now, Google has been charging for services that used to be free. Curious about changes in other email providers, I revisited my old Yandex account and discovered that they now also require payment for certain features. While the email service itself still functions properly, the fact that it is a Russian company may raise concerns about potential sanctions.

If you are looking for an alternative service, you may want to check out another provider called Mail.ru. However, please note that this service does not offer an English version.
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Newport on Aug 10, 2022, 09:33 AM
Quote from: Ali_Pro on Aug 10, 2022, 07:18 AMHere is another similar service.

I'm already creating it on my mail.  :)  I'm waiting for a DNS update.

If they also make mail paid, then where to go :o if the client does not know how to use hosted mail and does not want to...
Again: although the service is serious and has long been in operation, but, most likely, it is even more susceptible to possible sanctions than the Yandex search engine.
All set up, and one "beautiful day" it will stop working. :-\
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: _AnnA_ on Aug 10, 2022, 10:44 AM
Quote from: Ali_Pro on Aug 10, 2022, 07:18 AMThere is no English version.
The main thing is to have access to IMAP and SMTP, the interface of the web-version is a tenth thing, who needs it, right?
Quote from: Newport on Aug 10, 2022, 09:33 AMif the client does not know how to use hosted mail and does not want to...
Hosting most ISPs won't come close to providing the level of mail handling that a search engine of this class can provide.
Quote from: Newport on Aug 10, 2022, 09:33 AMAll set up, and one "beautiful day" it will stop working.
I quite agree with that. In our world, alas, there is no stability, and the words you wrote are quite in line with the established mainstream.
By the way, the level of mail, - quite normal.

And why don't you consider working with Zoho Mail (https://www.zoho.com/)? You can park a domain there, and make 10-15 mailboxes for free. 
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Term on Aug 10, 2022, 12:11 PM
Quote from: _AnnA_ on Aug 10, 2022, 10:44 AMAnd why don't you consider working with Zoho Mail?

Zoho mail has applied a "military trick". You start the registration process, you have to enter the code from the letter to the email you specified. You wait. You do not get it.
When it comes, after 20 minutes, the letter says that the code is valid for 15 minutes, up to 16:58, for example.
And it is time of sending of the letter: 17:03.  ;D Certainly, the code generated 20 minutes ago with the lifetime of 15 doesn't fit anywhere.
I almost smashed my forehead on this problem. Technical support is not answering.
Gave up on them and use my hoster.
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Ali_Pro on Aug 10, 2022, 01:48 PM
I haven't connected a new one to Yandex in a long time, and the old one is still free.

Now did an experiment.
https://360.yandex.ru/business/tariff?from=landing there at the very bottom click: try with restrictions. You can park up to 3 domains.
When everyone was forced to switch to Yandex360, I did not put any acceptances anywhere. Maybe that's why it works.
Just in case, I added another domain - let it be.  ;) The old domains there can still be changed to other domains.
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Ronny on Aug 11, 2022, 02:46 AM
I was not able to register for free plan in Yandex.
Such a feature for new users, unfortunately, no longer.
And for the money it is easier for me to do it on Google.
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Ali_Pro on Aug 11, 2022, 03:18 AM
Quote from: Term on Aug 10, 2022, 12:11 PMZoho mail has applied a "military trick"

I have registered on Zoho Mail.
I registered through VPN. The registration country is Russia. That's how Zoho Mail does not want Europeans and Americans on a free plan, and the Russians - wants.  ;D Discrimination!  ;D
For free are ready to provide 5 boxes under my domain, each of which is 5 gigabytes on disk. Allowed attachments of 25 megabytes.

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But the domain is not accepted in any zone. Extremely limited choice, and offer to register a new one with them.
Domain zones of African countries .ml, ga - do not want. Asked the question techsupport, no answer yet. Discrimination again.  ;D

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Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Trivia on Aug 11, 2022, 05:19 AM
thank you
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: Newport on Aug 11, 2022, 09:57 AM
Thank you all!
Yesterday I set up Mail_ru, everything is fine, I hope it will stay this way.
Well, will they fall under sanctions or not? I tend to think, that it will not affect the service in any way. Their owner has been under sanctions for a couple of years, so what?

In general, let it work as it is. If it stops, then we will look for other solutions.  :)
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain with a third-party host.
Post by: markstylor on Oct 17, 2022, 01:56 AM
One of the main issues with non-delivery of emails, particularly on Gmail, is often related to overactive spam filters on the receiving end. While emails sent from a mailbox within larger corporations such as Google are generally more likely to reach their intended recipient, messages from other sources are more prone to getting lost in spam folders or rejected altogether. This was recently demonstrated by an attempt my friend made to send a simple message which was ultimately rejected.

It is important to remember that while it may be easier to use a corporation's email service, doing so also means that your emails and personal information could potentially be accessed and used for various purposes without your consent. Ultimately, each approach to email hosting has its own benefits and drawbacks, so it is difficult to say which is "better" than the others.

Regardless, it is important to take measures to safeguard your online privacy and security no matter which email service you use.
Title: Re: Organizing mail for your domain name with a third-party host
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